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On this edition of Sightings, it's called Blood Alley, a perilous highway that may lead

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to a deadly crack in time.

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I just really thought that death was around the next corner.

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Then, have extraterrestrial visitors returned to the site of a UFO crash?

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There appears to be some type of intelligence behind the phenomenon.

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Plus, our minds have the power to work miracles.

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I wanted enough of a phase to be able to blend into a crowd.

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Later, a psychic's vision provides clues to a brutal crime in North Carolina.

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I would suspect this is someone capable of becoming a serial killer.

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Finally, an update.

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The bizarre mutilations continue in New Mexico.

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Maybe they'll start on human snacks, I hope.

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Welcome to Sightings.

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I'm Tim White.

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Many paranormal researchers believe that our thoughts and emotions don't dissipate.

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Instead, they linger and can take on the life of their own.

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In places of great upheaval or tragedy, this concentration of emotional energy can become

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so strong it actually warps time and space, providing a window into another dimension.

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It's a theory that may explain the eerie events along a lonely stretch of road in Northern

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California.

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It was like all of a sudden, time became like a glass cage of horror.

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It was like I couldn't push out of it.

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There was something bad or evil that had taken possession of not just me and not just my

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car but everybody else, the truck drivers, the car drivers, everybody was being possessed

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by something that was driving them to destruction.

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I was so scared I just wanted to get out of there and I was actually driving uncontrolled.

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The car was kind of swerving in different things and I just kept trying to get as fast

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as I could to get out of there.

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Pacheco Pass Highway, 42 miles of twisting mountain road that traverses the line between

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Central and Northern California.

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Since the 1970s, there have been 169 fatalities here.

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It was a nightmare.

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It had the nickname of Blood Alley.

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Due to the heavy volume of traffic twisting mountainous road, you had a potential there

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for a lot of traffic accidents and we in fact did have a lot of traffic accidents on Pacheco

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Pass Highway.

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But many people who have driven through Pacheco Pass say it's more than the switchbacks in

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narrow lanes that make this highway so dangerous.

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I was coming back from a trip.

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Coming around one of the curves, all of a sudden I was hit by such an overpowering panic.

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I began to feel that I was being invaded.

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I saw a little girl with her hands pressed up her eyes screaming, help me, help me.

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I saw men hanging up on a hill like somebody put them up on a gallows.

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It was like a montage of horror.

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Sylvia Brown is not the only motorist who has been haunted by bizarre apparitions in Pacheco

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Pass.

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I was driving through Pacheco Pass at night and I started hearing voices come from the

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back seat kind of low and then it started growing and at first I thought I was just

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tired so I kind of slapped myself and I rolled down the window trying to get some cold air

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but then the voices kept getting stronger and stronger and I was just terrified.

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I kept trying to drive faster and faster and I started hearing sounds of horses like on

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the sides of the car.

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There were three men outside and two women inside and the noise kept going and it kept

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getting louder and louder.

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You could hear like the wagon that they were in kept creaking and crashing and it was like

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slammed down and things were clanking and chains against the side and the women would

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scream each time it came down and lasted maybe like ten minutes total.

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Are these echoes of the area's violent past come back to haunt modern-day visitors?

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In 1797 the indigenous tribes here were taken by force and enslaved at San Juan Batista

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Mission.

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They rebelled and massacred many settlers.

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In retaliation the tribes were almost completely wiped out.

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Later Pacheco Pass became the hideout for Joaquin Marietta and Tibercio Vasquez, notorious

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desperados of the late 19th century.

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Through the years the past has witnessed many violent deaths.

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It's been suggested that people traveling through the area today may be picking up visual

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and oral messages that have somehow been locked in time and space.

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Paranormal researchers Sylvia Brown and Larry Beck think there is a time warp, a rip in

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the fabric of time in Pacheco Pass.

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Pacheco Pass seems to have some kind of, if you will, a tornado of emotion and it hovers

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and wiggles slightly but it moves in and around the Pacheco Pass area.

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And it's like traumatic events all concentrated into a ball or whirling mass or a vortex of

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some kind.

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It's almost like there was layers of time upon time.

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There was fighting, there was Indians, there was covered raggins.

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Everything that I experienced was like bloodshed, futility, despair.

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But tragically in our world we find so many of these warps where traumas have occurred,

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where pain has occurred and they build upon one another until they leave the normal timeline

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and form a little cutout bubble.

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And if you're sensitive you could hit it and experience those things concurrently.

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Sylvia Brown has investigated hundreds of hauntings throughout the United States but

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she believes that the activity in Pacheco Pass is unique in its intensity and deserves

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further investigation.

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It's not necessarily a haunting but it's where a lot of activity, usually of a negative

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nature has gone on and what it's done is it's imprinted itself right in the atmosphere in

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a certain place.

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Physicists concede that we know very little about the cosmic relationship between time

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and space.

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But for the California Highway Patrol the problems in the Pass are completely down to

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Earth.

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Of all the accidents I've worked on Pacheco Pass I can never attribute any of them to

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any type of psychic phenomenon.

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The Highway Patrol has found a reason for every accident we've ever worked out there

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and it's always been that way.

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But no one can ever know what, if anything, those motorists saw in the moments before

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their fatal accidents.

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I don't know that I can put my finger on it because I've never delved into the psychic

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all that much and hadn't thought that much about ghosts and things like that.

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But I did have the feeling that death was around the next corner.

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Does imagination run wild along these dangerous curves?

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Or is there a mysterious energy from the past imprinting on the present?

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Research into time warps or time implants as they are now being called is in its infancy.

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So far the human mind is the only instrument that seems to be capable of measuring this

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bizarre phenomenon.

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Caltrans, the California Department of Transportation admits that they have considered rerouting

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Highway 152 away from the so-called Blood Alley.

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But those plans are still on the drawing board.

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In the meantime area residents have launched a private campaign to get the job done.

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The estimated price tag is $150 million.

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Psychosomatic illness is a medical fact.

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Mainstream medicine accepts without question that some people can make themselves sick

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through the power of the mind.

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So could the reverse be true?

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Are we capable of psychosomatic wellness?

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Can the same mind that creates illness also be used to heal?

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All I remember thinking was my son has to be alright.

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I don't care what happens to me as long as he's not hurt.

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So I got out of the car.

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Well first I looked at my mom and I was just like totally shocked.

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You know I just didn't expect it.

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I lost consciousness at the time of the impact and I had a very intense near-death experience

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at that time.

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I went through the standard phases of going through the tunnel of light.

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Then I went into a beautiful garden.

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I was just like what do I do?

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What do I do?

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And I just yelled my mom's name to her.

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I was just shaking her.

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Just wake up.

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Come on.

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Wake up.

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Then suddenly my father was there and he had been dead for about ten years.

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And I said oh I'm so glad to see you.

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And he said well I'm glad to see you too but you can't stay.

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And I said no I've gotten here.

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I'm not leaving.

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And he said now you have to go back because there's a purpose you haven't fulfilled.

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And as he was saying that my son was reviving me and I could feel myself being pulled back

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into my body.

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And he brought me back.

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That was in 1982.

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From that day to this, Gary Carter has felt that her near-death experience was a turning

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point.

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She was being allowed to come back for a reason.

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A reason that she could barely know as she clung to life.

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I kept demanding to see my mother and my father finally said no.

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That she didn't have a face anymore and he was not going to let me see her.

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On a scale of one to ten I would say her injuries were probably nine to ten in severity.

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So certainly very high levels of injury.

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My eyes were zoned shut because I had a lot of cuts there.

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I couldn't talk because I had a tracheotomy.

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I couldn't smell because I didn't have a nose.

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I couldn't talk because I didn't have a mouth.

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This patient like many others who have facial injuries, no matter how well the surgeons

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repair them, they never regained exactly their original normal appearance.

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Before that I had been a model and people always looked at me with admiration.

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After the accident, without a nose and without a mouth and without a face, people looked

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at me with looks of horror.

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I felt very guilty for upsetting them.

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I wanted enough of a face to be able to blend into a crowd again and not scare people.

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Her surgeons warned that the reconstruction process would be long and arduous, requiring

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at least ten separate surgeries.

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After the first operation, the pain was unbearable.

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It was just horrible to see my mom just sitting there in agony, just unable to do anything

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and just absolutely in pain.

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Intense pain like a symphony, I remember.

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It was always there, always intense.

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It was just horrible.

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It was a dreadful, dreadful time.

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The second surgery was even more excruciating.

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On the eve of her third surgery, Gary's dread intensified.

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When I was scared, I was really scared of the pain and this very pushy friend called

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me up and said, I've heard about these wonderful pain control tapes you might like to use since

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you have all these years of surgery out of you.

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The tapes came from the non-profit Monroe Institute, an education and research facility

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in Virginia.

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Here sound waves are used to affect brain waves, often with amazing results.

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We teach people how to use the power of their mind, how to use this power to promote healing

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processes, to promote optimal learning, to gain control of their life and their perceptions

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as they move through life.

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The Institute was founded on the principle that focused states of consciousness can be

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achieved by listening to combinations of sounds that alter brain wave patterns.

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In this focused state, pain can be eliminated.

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It's called the hemisync method.

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We put one sound in one ear and another sound in the other ear and when these sounds work

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together inside the brain, they alter your state of consciousness.

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They actually change the brain waves inside your head.

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It's not subliminal.

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The tones are a part either of music or of ocean waves depending on the different tapes.

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For Gary, the tapes had an amazing effect.

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Her pain threshold changed so dramatically, she asked if she could listen to a tape in

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the operating room.

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I took the tapes in with me for the surgery to make my nose and I told Dr. Edgerton if

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the tapes worked fine but if not I'd like my codeine right away please and he smiled

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and he said he thought it would be an interesting experiment and all the doctors and nurses

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were quite interested as well.

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And some of these operations of course can be very painful for a time but with the aid

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of the tapes, even going down to the operating room area with the tapes playing, she really

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seemed to deal with the anxiety issues and the post-operative pain issues very well and

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I think a lot of the staff were very impressed by how much these tapes helped her.

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I was relaxed and happy going down into the operating room.

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It was like going to a fun party instead of the shakes and the queasiness I would have

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had before.

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In Gary's case, it was very clear she did not request very much anesthetic when she

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was using the Monroe tapes.

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The feeling when somebody is cutting on you when you use these tapes is one of being disassociated.

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You feel the touching and the pulling or pushing as they're cutting or stitching but

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there's no pain associated with it.

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It's just like a very gentle touch.

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Where you hypnotize somebody and you tell them you're going to burn them but you actually

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reach out and just lightly touch them, the body believes so strongly that it's going

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to be burned that it will be blistered.

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Well you want to use that same kind of mind power to make the body believe so strongly

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that it's going to get healthy and it's going to have less pain, that it actually kicks

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in and provides all those things that are necessary for that to happen.

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I had no pain after that surgery whatsoever.

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I used the Monroe audio tapes and there was minimal swelling and bruising and I went home

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from the hospital in two days instead of ten.

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The whole theory opens a lot of interesting possibilities.

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We are just in the very early stages of understanding brain function.

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Gary continued to use her tapes through seven more operations.

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Today she looks forward to a pain-free life and feels her purpose now is to help others

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through lectures and her book, Healing Myself.

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We truly are all one and we're all here to help each other and that's what I want this

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book to do for other people.

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I've been blessed to have the face that I have but I think in a way mommy's more blessed

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to have what's happened to her because it's changed her and it's given her a whole new

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outlook and this is only a skin for me now.

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It used to be an identity and now my identity is in here.

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It's not here.

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I guess what really had an effect on me was seeing my mother utilizing these tapes and

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utilizing the potential within herself to heal.

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I thought, wow, if that's possible, it really opens the door for so many more things.

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The meaning of life to me before the accident was totally based on outer appearances.

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Now in my second life I look at the light bulbs.

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I don't look at the lampshades as I did in my first life.

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The Monroe Institute is not suggesting that every patient should forgo anesthesia in

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the operating room but they do believe that as long as conventional medicine is standing

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by, alternative therapy should be given a chance to work first.

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When sightings continues, startling UFO activity captured on home video.

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There's an excitement to builds and it's just like incredible.

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I've never seen anything like this in my life.

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Jose Escamilla used to be like a lot of other amateur sky watchers.

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He'd take his video camera outside and hope for the best.

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But in March of this year, Jose got something, a UFO streaking across the sky.

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And since then he has shot more than 500 hours of what he believes is UFO footage.

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Where does Jose Escamilla live?

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12 miles outside of Roswell, New Mexico.

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We began taping UFOs on March 5th.

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I got a call and they said, come out to midway, there's UFOs out here.

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Midway, New Mexico is easy to miss if you're speeding by on the interstate.

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To the casual observer, it's just another small southwestern town.

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But look up.

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There in broad daylight, strange craft are flying over the town.

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Sightings contacted local residents who have startling home videos of UFOs they just can't

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explain.

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New Mexico as a whole has had a lot of sightings.

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And I think that there is a tremendous interest by our visitors, should we say, as to the

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activities that have taken place here in the past.

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Here, just as stones throw from midway near Roswell, New Mexico, a suspicious crash landing

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in 1947 launched modern interest in ufology.

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The air force insisted it was a downed weather balloon and, despite persistent rumors, continue

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to deny any knowledge of alien craft or life forms.

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But many people who live and work here believe otherwise that this new flap of UFOs is connected

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to the original Roswell incident.

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Jose Escamilla owns a videotape facility in New Mexico and has shot hundreds of hours

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of beautiful southwestern scenery.

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But on March 5th, 1994, Escamilla saw his first UFOs.

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He immediately began videotaping.

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We have a piece of film of a jet, I think it was a citation that flew right over the

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property.

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I guess it must have been about five or six hundred feet.

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We captured an object that comes from upper screen right on TV.

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And it goes right up behind the jet and it seems to tag it on the tail or bump it.

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And you can see the object taken off away from the jet.

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Because of his video background, some people were suspicious of Escamilla's footage.

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Local news reporter Lachelle Yates launched an investigation.

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Given the history of Roswell and the crash, we thought it was interesting that here is

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a man who is capturing something unexplained on videotape.

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So we went out and videotaped in the same place that he videotapes and we got identical

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objects on our video.

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So we feel that he's not tricking us with any video scam or anything.

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What he has captured on tape, we feel is authentic.

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To date, Jose Escamilla has logged more than five hundred hours of UFO videotape.

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Every time we get a new tape and we find some new kind of object in there, there's an excitement

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that builds and it's just like incredible.

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I've never seen anything like this in my life.

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From the film footage I have seen, there appears to be some type of intelligence behind the

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phenomena.

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They represent a true enigma deserving of scientific scrutiny.

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The Escamilla video is an excellent cross-section of the kinds of things that I see on videotapes.

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Jim DeLotosa specializes in computer-assisted analysis of film and videotape.

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Siding's asked him to examine a large sapling from Escamilla's footage.

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He has found a number of unnatural flight patterns.

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What we find, you'll see, is that the object comes right in front of this telephone pole

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and then moves right up here and over top of the wires and out of the frame.

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Now in calculating this distance from where it comes in over the trees and by analyzing

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the edges and going up over the poles, it's about nine hundred yards.

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And in that period of time it's moving well over three thousand miles an hour.

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There are at least four military bases that are known to use the airspace over this part

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of New Mexico.

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And Area 51, the supposedly non-existent Air Force testing facility, would be only ten

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minutes away for a stealth fighter.

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Are unidentified craft like these government built and run?

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The Pentagon isn't talking.

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When it comes to trying to get this information, the Air Force will come back on an initial

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generic request stating that they have no information.

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This is a lie.

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The proximity to military bases in New Mexico and Escamilla making these videotapes is not

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just a coincidence.

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It follows a pattern.

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This is proof that UFOs are actually military aircraft.

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But much of Escamilla's footage reveals silhouettes and velocities that are not only unidentified

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by eyewitnesses but also unimaginable by current standards of technology.

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I'd like to find out what they are, period.

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If they're top secret military aircraft that the military is testing, I want an answer

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why they're doing such dangerous things out there like bumping their own jets.

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That's number one, but if they are not, okay, I'd like to know what they may be.

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Jose Escamilla knows that not everything he's capturing on videotape can be an alien spacecraft.

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But he believes that his video journal of the skies above Roswell is an important research

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tool for ufologists.

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He is the only comprehensive catalog of rare daytime activity anywhere in the world.

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Coming up next, a psychic detective goes in search of a brutal killer.

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I would suspect this is someone capable of becoming a serial killer.

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Ben, what do these people see and feel that you can't?

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And a sightings update, the bizarre cattle mutilations continue.

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The growing number of psychic phone services and storefront card readers is calling into

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question the integrity of professional psychics.

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But on sightings, we've found that there are a few gifted individuals who do make important

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psychic contributions, especially when it comes to providing new leads in an unsolved

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crime.

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This has been a very frustrating case.

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Potential suspects that we had early on in this case have been eliminated.

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I believe in what I can feel and touch and smell in here, but at this point in investigation,

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I'm not going to rule out anything that might provide a lead.

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I believe that Nancy Meyers will come up with something.

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I truly believe in my heart.

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By her own description, Nancy Meyers is a wife and a mother.

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But to the Nags Hen Police Department, she has a ray of hope.

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They've never worked with a psychic detective before, but one murder has remained unsolved

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for more than a year and the trail is growing cold.

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It happened here on the Outer Banks of North Carolina.

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Nags Hen is a popular resort area, and in August of 1993, the town was crowded with vacationers,

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enjoying the last warm weekend of the summer.

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But there was trouble ahead.

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A hurricane had made landfall down the coast and was heading north toward Nags Hen.

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Last night, everyone was talking about the impending hurricane.

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But just a few hours later, that would change.

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They'd all be talking about the young woman from New Jersey they'd met in the barn.

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The young woman who is now dead brutally stabbed.

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My sister Janet was one of the kindest, sweetest people you'd ever want to meet.

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She had so many friends and was liked by everyone.

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She was a very, very strong person.

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Very fragile, very loving, that's for sure.

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She had such wisdom about her that I loved.

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That evening after dinner, Janet and two of her friends went to the Porticole restaurant

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and stayed there for several hours.

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Her two girlfriends left an hour or so earlier.

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Janet stayed until closing.

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Janet was staying with her brother at the Hotel Carolinian.

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She got back around 2.30 in the morning, went up to her room and told her brother that she

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was going down to the beach to have a cigarette.

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Once she left the room, we really don't know what happened.

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Between that time and shortly after six o'clock in the morning, she was brutally murdered

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on the beach just a short distance to each of the motel.

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I ran out the door onto the deck.

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There were police everywhere, restraining me, not letting me up to the beach.

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And I said, my sister hasn't come home.

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She hasn't come home.

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They wouldn't let me up on the beach.

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In my heart, I knew that poor Janet was gone.

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It was the grizzliest murder Nagshan had ever seen.

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And the police department was immediately hampered by two factors that were out of their control.

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Workers and seasonal employees were leaving in droves.

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Summer was over.

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And by day's end, the entire town was being evacuated.

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Hurricane Emily was on the way.

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On August the 28th, Saturday morning, we completed the crime scene investigation and started interviewing

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potential witnesses.

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But on Sunday morning, we were put on heroin stand by and watch and started evacuating the

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area.

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Hurricane Emily not only swept the murderer out of town, it swept away any trace of his

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heinous crime.

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The blood soaked sand in front of the hotel washed out to sea.

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And with it, valuable clues the police would never recover.

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The hurricane left a clean slate, a detective's worst enemy.

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It's been a very frustrating case.

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The fact that nobody that we've contacted or we've spoken to has seen anything.

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Nobody's heard anything.

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Anxious for new leads, Nagshad police put their skepticism aside and allowed psychic

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Nancy Meyer to take a look at the case.

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I started working and police worked 19 years ago.

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There's energy in every murder scene.

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When I look at stacks of photos of a murder scene, I am not trying to look at this poor,

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battered body.

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What I'm looking for is somewhere when that photographer moved all the way around the body,

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he stood exactly where the killer was at a moment when the killer was open.

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Bam, I'm in there.

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That's why I need those photos.

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He has a long standing hatred of women.

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A veil comes over his face, there's no expression, the eyes are wooden, nothing will stop him.

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I would say you are dealing with a very disturbed man.

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I would suspect this is someone capable of becoming a serial killer if he is not already.

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Nancy Meyer has worked on over 300 police investigations.

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Unlike other psychic detectives, she does not become the victim or the killer.

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Rather, she draws psychic pictures from crime scene photos.

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She told sightings these photos were the most brutal she'd ever seen.

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Photo after photo after photo.

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There was a personal connection.

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She has known him for a while.

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You said that this was a planned event on his part?

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Yes.

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He seems to have been watching her earlier in the evening, but at a good enough distance

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so that no one, because some of the people she was with might have recognized him.

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So he's watching at a distance.

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So he had parked his car in the parking lot there at the hotel.

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He seems to have walked a little bit to get to where she died.

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Nancy Meyer worked with a police sketch artist to create the portrait of a killer.

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He has light brown hair, grayish eyes.

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They look kind of like a cross between gray blue and hazel.

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In addition to this sketch, Nagshead police detectives believe that Nancy Meyer has provided

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important new leads.

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Mrs. Meyer's involvement in this case today is the first opportunity that I've had to

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work one-on-one with a psychic.

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And quite frankly, I didn't know what to expect.

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She was able to tell us a great deal more information than I had ever hoped for personally.

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The person responsible for this crime, I think the state of North Carolina should make good

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use of its death penalty.

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She said with me every day, I see a spirit that I know and that's not what that's.

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I feel her.

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She's with me.

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And I know she keeps on telling me, Mom, don't worry.

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I'm in a better place.

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And I know she's with Ian Johnson.

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As in any profession, there are a few unscrupulous psychics out there who prey on emotionally

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vulnerable victims and their families.

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If you're thinking about consulting a psychic detective, it's important to choose wisely.

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Don't pay any money up front and work hand in hand with local law enforcement.

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Next, they hear colors and taste shapes.

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It's being called the seventh sense.

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Not imagination.

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It's a different type of reality.

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Imagine experiencing your five senses all mixed up.

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Suddenly, you feel colors.

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You hear shapes.

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A friend's voice tastes like buttered toast.

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These are all real life experiences of a rare group of people called synesthetes.

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They have a rare brain condition that mixes up all five senses and in some cases, reportedly,

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heightens a sixth psychic sense.

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It was a beautiful, clear night and I heard a warbler off in the tree and it was sending

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little blue bubbles off into the air.

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I was seeing these flashing images and pictures and all of this thing in my mind.

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If I'm introduced to someone, I can usually recall the name because I get an aura of color.

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These people are experiencing the world differently from the other 99.996% of us.

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They're not hallucinating, imagining or pretending.

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They have synesthesia.

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Synesthesia is an involuntary joining of the senses.

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Now you know the word anesthesia, okay, which means no sensation.

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Synesthesia means joined sensation.

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It's not imagination.

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It's a different type of reality.

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When Harry Gilbert hears sounds, he sees colors and shapes.

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It's called colored hearing and is the most common type of this most uncommon condition.

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If I heard something like a dog barking, it would depend on the dog.

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It would depend on the bark because a woof-woof sound would be kind of a big smoky gray like

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pepper, like the pepper that you pour out of a pepper mill.

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Whereas a little yipping dog might have small, isolated little white shapes that come off.

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Dr. Richard Saitoic is a neurologist and the world's leading authority on synesthesia.

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Synesthesia's memories are extraordinary.

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Sometimes they're even photographic.

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As a group, synesthesia has a higher incidence of unusual experiences.

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Clear voyants, precognitive dreams, empathic healing, deja vu.

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But these are not crazy people running around the street hearing voices.

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These are very bright people who, for all the world, appear normal except for this very

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peculiar and fascinating way of perceiving the world.

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Synesthete Jane Gossage-Bauerman tries to translate her experience through painting.

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This is what the classical music she's listening to looks like.

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I can do a painting and look at it and I don't have a clue how I did it because I don't know

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anything about painting.

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I couldn't possibly draw anything my little three-year-old grandchild can draw.

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I don't know how to do it, but I do know how to draw what I see.

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The doorbell rings and she sees a series of triangles.

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There's a screech makes a stack of colored lines, like a stack of pancakes in a way.

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And basically, synesthesia are elementary geometric things here, dots, triangles.

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They're seeing sort of the building blocks of perception.

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Dr. Saitoic first began studying synesthesia in earnest after a chance meeting with a neighbor.

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My neighbor, my new neighbor, invited me to dinner in North Carolina and delayed us sitting

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down to the table with the apology that there aren't enough points on the chicken.

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Now most of the guests just thought he was being silly, but I questioned him a bit and

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after a while I said, oh, you've got synesthesia, you know, taste and touch.

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And his response was, you mean there's a name for this?

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This incident inspired the title of Dr. Saitoic's definitive book on the subject.

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In it, he chronicles the way the brain can create its own separate reality.

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Now Michael Watson, who is literally the man who tasted shapes of my book's title, for

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him the taste of mint was a cool, smooth, curved sensation as if reaching out to feel

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the backside of a glass column.

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Dr. Saitoic was surprised to find that most synesthetes don't realize that their perceptions

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are extraordinary until someone who doesn't have it tells them so.

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I first realized I had synesthesia from when I was 28 and a friend and I were trying to

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recall someone's name and I said, well, it has sort of a green cast and she said, what

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are you talking about?

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And that was the realization that I was seeing something different from what she was seeing

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or she didn't have that sensibility.

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Gwen Glogi also expresses her experience through painting.

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When I'm reading or when I see words or when I am spoken to, I get a fabric of many different

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colors and I think I would be devastated if I woke up tomorrow morning and everything

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were in black and white.

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See when people ask me, they say, you know, synesthesia real, my response is, well, real

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to whom?

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To you or to the people who have it?

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And you see this insistence on a third person technological verification of any experience

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before accepting it as real really gets to the heart of how addicted we are to the external

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and the rational.

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And that really sweeps aside all of the kinds of knowing.

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Synesthesia helps me play music because partly it is a way I remember things.

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Once in a while I'll hear a sound in a song that will make a vivid color that stands right

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out and makes me want to play it over and over again.

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Dr. Sitoic estimates that as many as one in 25,000 people may have synesthesia and not

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know it and those that do feel blessed.

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Far from being some esoteric curiosity that's really unimportant, synesthesia turns out to

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be a peephole on a huge amount of the mind and the brain.

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What does it feel like to have synesthesia?

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Well we can never experience what they experience, but we can glimpse it through the work of some

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famous synesthetes.

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Visual artists David Hockney and Vasily Kondinsky and composers Sergei Rachmaninov and Franz List.

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Next a sightings update.

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The mutilations continue in New Mexico and ranchers want answers.

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You know it's a crime.

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They're taking my living away from me.

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It's just outright thievery.

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Eli Hornick is a rancher in northern New Mexico who has experienced the horror of cattle mutilation

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first hand.

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Recently, Hornick participated in a sightings investigation of animal mutilation in the

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southwest.

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Since his participation, Hornick informs us that the mutilations have not only continued

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but seem to be increasing.

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The tongue was missing.

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The meat after it cut it open looked like it had been cooked or something.

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When we found the animal it couldn't have been there no longer than 12, 13 hours because

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I was there at 6.30 in the evening.

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I was back there at 7 o'clock the next morning.

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It wasn't maybe 600 yards from the ranch house and this animal was all it had been mutilated.

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There's no blood, no tracks, no sign of nothing.

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And this animal was already decomposing like it had been dead for four or five days.

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If it was satanic cults you'd have blood all over everything.

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If it was predators you'd have blood all over.

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These cuts are very uniform, very smooth.

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The eye looks like it has just been sucked out.

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It's a pattern that continues to be all too familiar for many ranchers in the southwest

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and now there's a strange new development.

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We've had a disturbing new trend where ranchers inadvertently are touching these carcasses

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and they're developing what could be I guess like into a chemical like burn.

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I stuck my thumb in the animal's mouth and when I stuck that thumb in there, well it

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burned for about two weeks.

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I mean like I would say it would be like a battery acid burn or something you know like

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that.

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Since our last report the border area between New Mexico and Colorado has been hit hard.

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Ranchers there tell sightings that animals are decomposing at an unnaturally rapid rate

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and the body count is up.

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We're having mutilations that are occurring on almost a weekly basis.

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They seem to be expanding outwards from this area about a week and a half after the sighting

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segment aired we had two cases in Soatch County Colorado which is about 80 miles north of

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here.

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I think they're coming down out of the air with some kind of air equipment, picking

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them up, taking them, bringing them back and laying them down.

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Eli Hornick is fed up with the seeming lack of interest in his and other ranchers' plight.

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Mutilation reports gathered dust on government desks while animals continue to die and even

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as the number of dead cattle rises, official interest in the mystery is declining.

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Somebody somewhere in this country knows what's going on.

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I mean it just seems like every time we try to do an investigation, try to get something

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started, it comes to a dead end.

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We can't get senators, congressmen, you know it just gets a lot of publicity but it just

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dies.

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You know it doesn't seem like, you know it's a crime.

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You know this is real monetary value.

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This is my living.

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You know it's cost me thousands of dollars already.

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They're taking my living away from me.

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It's just outright thievery.

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Why isn't somebody doing it?

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Something about it.

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Our government has the capacity to monitor any square acre of ground in this country

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if they want to.

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If they are not part of the problem and they are truly as baffled about this as the ranchers

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and investigators like myself are, let's catch whoever or whatever is mutilating cattle.

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Investors and private investigators say they smell a rat.

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They are beginning to believe that there is a government conspiracy of silence at the

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heart of the mutilation phenomenon.

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We was caught in hay in one of the meadows and this helicopter was right there.

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It looked to me like a big military type helicopter.

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No numbers.

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And that night we had a mutilation.

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I think people are scared to pay attention.

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They're scared.

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It's something of the unknown and they just don't want to get involved.

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And it's a very frightening thing to, especially when you see these things.

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You know my God they could come after me.

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Maybe they'll start on humans next.

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I hope not.

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Finally, someone in Washington is taking the cattle mutilation problem seriously.

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This is a letter written by New Mexico Senator Pete Domenici requesting that the livestock

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board provide him with a detailed status report on the progress of their cattle mutilation

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investigation.

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For ranchers like Eli Hornick, it's the first sign of official support for a phenomenon

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that has plagued them since 1967.

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If you've had a paranormal experience, call the sightings hotline at 1-900-933-SITE.

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That's 1-900-933-7444.

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Average call 65 cents a minute, average call last three minutes.

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Sightings is also online.

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Our email address is sightings at aol.com.

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Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind.

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For Sightings, I'm Tim White.